Comments on: Adapt or die http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/ Search Engines and Optimization, Dink style. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:31:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Dink http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1447 Dink Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:31 +0000 http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1447 Heya fanboi! Autographs at 8:00. >>but if you have a good foundation in WH Seo as well as past techniques that work, you can apply everything you know from your experiences to the new tricks and see some great results.<< As my friend Nop would say..."zigzakly". Sometimes even the old tricks will work if you take the time to revamp them. And, keep yer head low. >>Sorry about the fragments…posting from my iphone.<< Now there is a segment of our interweb that may just be ready for exploitation. hmmmm Heya fanboi! Autographs at 8:00.

>>but if you have a good foundation in WH Seo as well as past techniques that work, you can apply everything you know from your experiences to the new tricks and see some great results.< <
As my friend Nop would say..."zigzakly".

Sometimes even the old tricks will work if you take the time to revamp them. And, keep yer head low.

>>Sorry about the fragments…posting from my iphone.<<
Now there is a segment of our interweb that may just be ready for exploitation. hmmmm

]]> By: Nick http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1444 Nick Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:17:33 +0000 http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1444 Agreed. Have to be one of the first to the punch with a little something extra ... works in pretty much every industry. Look at the social bookmarking space ... digg and reddit were the first...the next stream of a half dozen (decent) copycats, mister-wong, newsvine, propellor, etc, all fairly successful. Twitter space? You got Jaiku, Pownce, Frazr, etc. Friendster? Myspace, facebook, bebo. All of the copycats took the same basic premise and added their own little flair to it. The same can be applied to SEO ... see that the top guys for 'buy viagra' are link spamming edus to a technorati page? Do the same AND interlink a couple technorati profiles, add some SB links, do some targeted forum/comment spamming, and you should establish a more unique and powerful link profile to help you get to those positions as well. Like you said, you'll never know <i>exactly</i> what the top guys are doing ... but if you have a good foundation in WH Seo as well as past techniques that work, you can apply everything you know from your experiences to the new tricks and see some great results. Nick Ps. Sorry about the fragments...posting from my iphone. Pss. I guess ^ makes me a dinkstyle fanboy...shieettt Agreed. Have to be one of the first to the punch with a little something extra … works in pretty much every industry. Look at the social bookmarking space … digg and reddit were the first…the next stream of a half dozen (decent) copycats, mister-wong, newsvine, propellor, etc, all fairly successful. Twitter space? You got Jaiku, Pownce, Frazr, etc. Friendster? Myspace, facebook, bebo. All of the copycats took the same basic premise and added their own little flair to it. The same can be applied to SEO … see that the top guys for ‘buy viagra’ are link spamming edus to a technorati page? Do the same AND interlink a couple technorati profiles, add some SB links, do some targeted forum/comment spamming, and you should establish a more unique and powerful link profile to help you get to those positions as well. Like you said, you’ll never know exactly what the top guys are doing … but if you have a good foundation in WH Seo as well as past techniques that work, you can apply everything you know from your experiences to the new tricks and see some great results.

Nick
Ps. Sorry about the fragments…posting from my iphone.
Pss. I guess ^ makes me a dinkstyle fanboy…shieettt

]]> By: Dink http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1436 Dink Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:20:16 +0000 http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1436 Heya Nick, @fanboy. :blush; Ya. I like what he says and how he says it. You're 100% correct that there is money to be made with the outed exploits. It's just harder to do after it's been pounded to death. xrumer still works. Just not as easy or effective as it was at first. It'll continue to be harder to get good results with it. Finally it'll stop working at all. Then after a year or so it can be used in a limited fashion. For a while. Watching the buy viagra serps can give you an idea of how the top guys are doing things. It can't/won't tell you everything that he is doing. Most of us will get on IM or on a forum or a blog like this one and say something like 'hey looky at the top three in buy viagra. Notice anything? See they are all three using xxx and yyy. Most of the linkys are from .sometld. How did they do that?' The collective heads figure out what is what and how what they see is done. So, if it was like 5 guys studying and comparing notes, plus the top three in the serps, then there would be 8 guys doing a similar thing. That's fine. Well and good. Except someone is looking at your serps too. Pretty soon it snowballs and everybody and his brother-in-law is doing the same thing. Then one day you check the serp pages again and say 'shat. They've changed things up'. That's the bh way. As for the top guys changing each week, I'll bet some cash that it's only the sites that are changing and not the site owners. The last intel that I got indicated that the top 5 are located in the Eastern Europe region and speak a Russian dialect (if you get my drift lol). When one of the sites gets knocked out they have ten more ready to take it's place. Cooperation and cash. Works every time. Glad to have you commenting again Nick. You always get me to thinking straight. Heya Nick,

@fanboy. :blush; Ya. I like what he says and how he says it.

You’re 100% correct that there is money to be made with the outed exploits. It’s just harder to do after it’s been pounded to death.

xrumer still works. Just not as easy or effective as it was at first. It’ll continue to be harder to get good results with it. Finally it’ll stop working at all. Then after a year or so it can be used in a limited fashion. For a while.

Watching the buy viagra serps can give you an idea of how the top guys are doing things. It can’t/won’t tell you everything that he is doing.

Most of us will get on IM or on a forum or a blog like this one and say something like ‘hey looky at the top three in buy viagra. Notice anything? See they are all three using xxx and yyy. Most of the linkys are from .sometld. How did they do that?’

The collective heads figure out what is what and how what they see is done. So, if it was like 5 guys studying and comparing notes, plus the top three in the serps, then there would be 8 guys doing a similar thing. That’s fine. Well and good. Except someone is looking at your serps too.

Pretty soon it snowballs and everybody and his brother-in-law is doing the same thing. Then one day you check the serp pages again and say ’shat. They’ve changed things up’. That’s the bh way.

As for the top guys changing each week, I’ll bet some cash that it’s only the sites that are changing and not the site owners. The last intel that I got indicated that the top 5 are located in the Eastern Europe region and speak a Russian dialect (if you get my drift lol). When one of the sites gets knocked out they have ten more ready to take it’s place. Cooperation and cash. Works every time.

Glad to have you commenting again Nick. You always get me to thinking straight.

]]> By: Nick http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1431 Nick Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:50:52 +0000 http://dinkstyle.com/adapt-or-die/#comment-1431 Fanboy. Haha, just messing. While I agree with a lot of what you say, theres definitely some money to be made by being the third or forth runner in a publicly talked about tactic if you go balls to the wall. Check 'buy viagra' for example. The technorati-parasite has been discussed openly as well as how to boost your technorati popularity both internally (via favorites and whatnot) and externally (hello, xrumer). Yet, every week you see a new breed of spammers using it to get top 10 serps for the term. Even if this only lasts a couple of days, those guys are making good money. While I agree that innovation is definitely key in the long term, there is nothing wrong with being the followup guy who does everything x2. This is blackhat, after all ;) Nick Fanboy.

Haha, just messing. While I agree with a lot of what you say, theres definitely some money to be made by being the third or forth runner in a publicly talked about tactic if you go balls to the wall. Check ‘buy viagra’ for example. The technorati-parasite has been discussed openly as well as how to boost your technorati popularity both internally (via favorites and whatnot) and externally (hello, xrumer). Yet, every week you see a new breed of spammers using it to get top 10 serps for the term. Even if this only lasts a couple of days, those guys are making good money.

While I agree that innovation is definitely key in the long term, there is nothing wrong with being the followup guy who does everything x2.

This is blackhat, after all ;)
Nick

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